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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Republica Winder
Which means that today represents the high water mark for EVE subscriptions from this day forward...
The stats show high water mark was almost a year ago.
Players started to leave the moment CCP set themselves on this current path.
Some of us were dumb enough to think they might actually pull it off and get back to developing the game we pay for.
Now we too have unsubscribed.
Next it's the new customers who realise the game has no dedicated players anymore.
Then it's F2P.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tachibana Kanade
I'm only holding back on unsubbing because I'm awaiting for an official response on all this.
Delusional.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Neo160
to be honest, CCP is going to-do whatever they want, as it seems they already clearly understand the commuinties point of view.
Yet have the hubris to believe they can ignore the community because they "know better".
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Posted - 2011.06.23 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Wanda Wong
Are you ****ting me? when there's a crap-storm raging on the forum they are daft enough to let a post like that hang around???
They only moderate complaints when it can be done without people noticing.
Usually by moving them to "Out of Pod Experiences" or "Feature and Idea Discussion" blackholes.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ren Nekk
...sort of awaiting CCP response...
You are correct. Don't bother waiting around for the bull****.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kristal Meth
That PDF contains what may be the most obnoxious font I've ever encountered, anywhere.
That said, it is probably the all new CCP font that they'll use everywhere in game.
I really didn't think there could be a font worse then Eve in-game.
Just wow. Nearly unreadable.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shoot2kilI
Another six accounts reporting in for bio-mass / unsubbing when/if this get's implemented.
Forget this "when/if" stuff.
It's done. CCP *ARE* completely, 100%, ****ed. It's over.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
In the spirit of remaining hopeful:
Maybe they have actually learned somethingŕ
No, I have gone beyond believing that myself, but like I said: "hopeful"ŕ 
Well done, you've made progress escaping their bull****.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:38:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 08:40:21
Why do people have questions about the authenticity of this document?
It simply states the sames things we've been hearing from CCP via official channels for some time now.
i.e. PLEX for remap. PLEX for ships etc.
There is no question of authenticity. It matches their stated position.
It perfectly matches the strategy they have been implementing for near 2 years now.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 09:26:16
Then 100x for all the people who just silently leave without making a complaint.
edit: lol that's actually everyone, so fast!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
If Eve could not pay for itself after this, bye bye CCP.
Most of the players of this game have seen a fail-cascade close up.
Now the people who never left high-sec get to see one.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
If you send to Chribba you MUST indicate the clause: "VAERT DONATION"
Is Chribba going to keep playing after they screwed him so bad?
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny Utrigas
They're looking for the waders still to get through it.
They're stuck at "ba" like the guy in Aliens 3 who drops the detonator in a hall full of accelerant.
They'll be there for a few days yet while they figure out just how screwed they are.
Some recent examples: BP Deepwater Horizon, Fukushma Nuclear Reactor.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Eve is seen as a payroll for WoD and Dust.
That is their view of Eve. The money source for "other projects", which is true because Warewolves and vampires has a LARGE MASS APPEAL than Scifi.
Eve is such a horrible burden for them.
$14.95/mo for so much work, so much grief, so much stress. There are much better activities to be involved in with the gaming industry beside trying to placate a bunch of tards month by month for no money.
Thing is it was safe, secure, assured. CCP didn't have faith in it though, they saw the future coming and were afraid they couldn't stand up against competition.
I would have kept being 3 of their customers....
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Who will buy CCP out when they start going under? Sony or nVidia? or EA, I brought EA in to this cos CCP are starting to sound so much like them.
Start?
No one.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 11:30:51
Originally by: Iulia Badr Marinela
http://i.imgur.com/5wiWj.jpg
Moderators are slow today and CCP never bothered to take 5mins and edit the forum code to be secure.
Use url tag, imgs can be used to cross site script, half the forum has them turned off.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 11:45:18
Originally by: dibblebill
I still say it looks fake, and more like a parody of CCP and its community than anything else.
You must be new.
It mirrors their public statements and releases they've attempted, exactly, just the internal part of the dialog.
Why does it look like a parody?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nimbat
They locked the thread where we discussed the ban of helicity :(
I've been banned by PR recently too.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vandrion
Edited by: Vandrion on 23/06/2011 12:12:20
If true (and I believe it probably is) then this is what just happened:
CCP has completed the coat hanger abortion of Eve...................
coat hanger abortion is best abortion
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I'm not mocking them at all, I'm simply of the opinion that people are reacting too drastically, to soon.
Too soon? Mate.... You've been around long enough to know the history.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Venom
their silence says more than their words ever could...
They're stuck in the headlights.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:44:00 -
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So guys.... How much liquid do you think CCP have in them? ;-)
How many weeks of negative cashflow before they just close the door and kick everyone out?
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
CCP would have to step in and control the prices. That would force their hand.
They always have controled the price. Last xmas I bought myself a GTC for some unknown reason.
Shattered-crystal told me they were out and had to wait for next month when CCP gives them more stock of codes.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 12:56:14
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Jade Constantine
...lots of things...
I tend to agree on all counts (a scary notion for the pair of us, I know).
lol same... wtg Jade!
I take back any time I've trolled SF :-)
edit: immolation... always learn a new word with Jade around.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
If you are totally desperate you can just send stuff to my listed VAERT charity corp.
Why do CCPs tax write-offs for them?
Let them sort out their own tax ****.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
If you are totally desperate you can just send stuff to my listed VAERT charity corp.
Why do CCPs tax write-offs for them?
Let them sort out their own tax ****.
old troll is old
CCP stated they don't use the charities for tax benefits as they don't donate in the name of CCP but in the name of the EVE players.
Really? wow that's just dumb, throwing away free money!
Bet that's just more of the same bull**** from CCP.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Caladan Broood
Originally by: Tammarr
garbage
CCP alts should at least remember to log into their damn game and create an avatar before posting.
LOL!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Liza la'fabre
1.4Bil isk for a god-damn monocle!?
really is the economy that bad in iceland after the Landsbanki debacle.
Bj÷rg=lfur Thor Bj÷rg=lfsson = Landsbanki = Novator Partners = CCPGames
Picture getting clearer?
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Liberium
Originally by: riverini
43 pages and still no CCP response of this?
No only trolling CCP alts.
Funny they think a few shills can change complete and total loss of goodwill.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Yeah well if they dont speak soon they are going to miss their own funeral, so to speak.
It's all too late.
Just in the threads of people who have confirmed they have unsubscribed you can see many key hub people who believe it or not hold this whole thing together.
When CCP wants to findout "Will this hurt too many people?" they head over to the database guys...
"Can you design me a query to show me how many people are connecting with XX hardware?" or whatever...
The answer always comes back "ahh like 1-3%".
CCP started making the mistake of assuming small percentages didn't matter. 1% + 1% + 1% + 1% + 1% + 9% + 2% + 13% + 100%
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:58:00 -
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"Not stay anyway" is part of the virus that invaded CCPs mind.
Remember they were kinda shocked to discover their retention/churn rate of 7 months.
There were elements of them focusing in on this time period rather then trying to extend it.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Anybody know the CHURN rate of ENTROPIA?
lol 200%, everytime someone joins 2 people leave!
Know that can trap animals in bad collision boxes and milk them for sweat :-D
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Republica Winder
By making move like this CCP will NEITHER retain existing customers NOR attract any new ones. They've cost themselves 100,000 accounts AT LEAST, maybe even more.
...
People aren't going to go subscribe to the game that everyone says has management with the morality of Anthony Weiner.
...
EVE is more dependent on veteran players for long term survival than SWG was.
Which means, to me anyway, I think this fiasco is going to hurt them faster and harder than the NGE harmed SOE.
Worst of all, from CCP's point of view, it's harmed their reputation. Who is going to buy their other games?
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QFT!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
Originally by: Republica Winder
RMT item shops and sandbox games DO NOT MIX. They are oil and water. You can't have a sandbox with a cash shop, soon as you add one the game isn't a sandbox anymore.
EVE's economy was heavily influenced by NPC buy/sell orders and the price floors/ceilings defined through these for years.
While they were removed in a way which ruined eves economy for years to come.
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:23:00 -
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If you don't see me... all my accounts with remaining subscription time are likely banned for challenging CCP to maintain the game I pay them for...
His name was John Turbefield!
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jefferson H Clay
Let us say, just hypothetically, that CCP are in a bit of financial trouble. EVE is the current cash producing product, Dust's dev costs went mental & WoD is taking longer than anticipated. Hypothetically you understand would you of prefered them to up the subs cost for a dollar or so a month or a $60 monacle?
Curious is all.
Drop DUST and tell WoD to get ****ed.
Refocus on Eve and get back the churned subscribers who return whenever they fix things via word-of-mouth.
Fixed.
Too late now.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Judicator Saturnius
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
....
Too late now.
Would you be so kind as to link me your gaming suggestions Dr. B?
If you haven't dived into Dwarf Fortress, it's definately worth at least a short swim.
Very tough/complex game, can take awhile before you get all the pieces of the mechanics that you need to survive.
Get the Lazy Newb Pack which includes tilesets and things to make it easier to use.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:25:00 -
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Quick question.... With CCP gone, how will the Russian mafia launder their money? More dating sites and mules forwarding WesternUnion?
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:42:00 -
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That "Your characters will be stored safely" is bull****.
They have no policy on it apart from saying they may one day delete them.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Zendragon
If this is as big of a cluster**** as it seems to be, I wouldn't be surprised they're still in the same all day long emergency-all-hands-on-deck management meeting trying to find a way to spin, mitigate, damage control, sweep under the rug, backpedal, fix or somehow get a grip...
It's worse then that. They haven't got past denial phase in their own heads.
Probably a phone call or two with "just *****in again, whatever"
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Good, so if we cancel they get insta deleted?
Not insta-delete but they have vocalised that they may one day have to delete old ones.
Can't remember where, fanfest video or something about databases.
Either way there is zero "digital legacy" policy or any kind of commitment to maintain the character data.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 18:01:12
Originally by: Sakura Zendragon
IMHO, if they were in denial, we'd probably have gotten some lame devblog already about how they are just "throwing ideas around"
No no.... I mean in denial like a mother who just lost her child. Silent. Shocked. Unable to process thoughts.
Complete and total breakdown.
edit: JADE! give me a word for it :-)
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Cyber Duck
Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot
Edited by: Tea Ester Elliot on 23/06/2011 17:59:37
The door, it has a purpose!
well... the mods are watching... that link was an image two seconds ago
Yes they are and I believe they silently picked a few posts out of here as well.
They're cherry picking out the choice bits of info from the noise before eve-search spiders.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 18:35:19
Quote:
Hello all,
We understand that right now, many of you have a number of concerns and issues with the current state of EVE Online, we ask that you not derail threads with these posts. We are asking all of you who have comments and issues regarding the newsletter to post in this thread, and those of you with comments and issues regarding the Noble Exchange store prices to post here. This will help us keep track of what is being said by the community much more easily, while allowing other players to discuss other aspects of EVE Online in an on-topic environment.
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
Contact us
ROFL! "Highlight the 4 last-minute bug fixes (the stuff that's been broken for years) which we included when we realised people were already ****ed, that will do the trick!"
edit: oops I fell into the heading trap, only 2 fixes and some random rambling by a drunk person.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 18:53:06
Originally by: LC Sulla
A possible future. Makes you think
Me - "...so I'd like to join your alliance..."
Alliance guy - "cool. We're fighting a major war here for this bit of space and our enemies have more money than we do. How much money can you put in to the war effort?"
Me - "oh... ISK you mean??"
Alliance guy - "...nah mate. I was thinking more along the lines of EURO!"
Long as they get a license for the corp website that should be fine by CCP.
edit: duh... what am I saying.... It's over. Done. Gone. Kaput.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Reed Tiburon
Failheap is Forbidden.
Tinfoil hat is fully on.
wow... had a feeling it was them last time too, the timing....
Tinfoil is on, it's the only way to be safe.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Failheap pt2
This magazine is a clear reflection of how CCP think internally. And once you realise that, it is clear that for EVE it is over. Perhaps just for me, I can accept that not everyone will agree with me on this, but this way of thinking 'breaks' EVE. It is fundamentally flawed, and it will only get worse over time. CCP the company is, in my view falling apart, and so is EVE with it.
Unadulterated Truth.
I like the bit about metrics.... All the "metrics" would show is a bunch of people bought monocles with their now worthless isk.
I hope they read those stats and think it was a success, just so we can watch them dig deeper for a few weeks. :-D
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ni'ark
60 page and still no response
No there is a response.
"Here is a devblog about 2 really old bugs we fixed. See we care!"
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Im pretty sure they will stop buying PLEX fast :) Unless they are total morons.
um.... they're playing Eve....
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 19:25:29
Originally by: Lakut
Originally by: Miilla
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /viewtopic.php on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
That link is dead.
Still got the page open, posting it as a screencap because of :charlimit: (in true Bartholomeus Crane walloftext fashion)
http://i.imgur.com/5xJhp.png
Info Hero!
You see how he did that, like a ninja or a Marine in the south pacific.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: MrSteack
Failheap pt2:
There is no real discussion at CCP, and there hasn't been for quite a while. Like Seleene said, the majority of employees get told squad, don't know what's going on, quite a few have become complete apathetic to what's being decided even. In the end, it's just a job, and they are actively encouraged in that direction. They aren't asked for their opinion and even if they'd have one, or wanted to ventilate one, there's nowhere to go with it. They are just there to concentrate on their thing, and applaud there rest, and basically drink the coolaid. Most stopped caring quite some time ago. And that is mostly because the 'leadership' (hard to talk about leadership when it's become so incompetent but what other word is there?) is by now entirely 'personified'. Call it little kingdoms, call it cliques, call it whatever you like, there are just a couple of people who really have an influence, and although that's not bad in and off itself, they stopped listening to everyone else but to those who tell them what they like to hear (read Stoffer) or who tell them funny things. This was the case when :18months: happened, and just like now, CCP circled the wagons, and it just got worse. Moreover, what came out here now, was already common knowledge for quite some time at CCP internally, so quite a lot of the good guys, the guys with options to go somewhere else, well, they have packed their bags, or they are quite busy packing their bags.
Why am I telling you this? Well, because I think it is important that you understand that it is basically over. This may be EVE's NGE moment, it may not be, we don't know yet, but one thing should be clear. This magazine is a clear reflection of how CCP think internally. And once you realise that, it is clear that for EVE it is over. Perhaps just for me, I can accept that not everyone will agree with me on this, but this way of thinking 'breaks' EVE. It is fundamentally flawed, and it will only get worse over time. CCP the company is, in my view falling apart, and so is EVE with it. And frankly, I don't see how it can be stopped, not any more. And no amount of circling the wagons can stop this from happening. Not if half of your cowboys are basically joining the Indians while you do it. Lot's of slippery slope analogies can be made but really, it's all downhill from here.
I'm enjoying the sight, but only because I'm well away from the boulders really.
Hahah if you believe that's genuine then you probably believe horoscopes too. Fan fiction forum is thattaway sonny. Some people really are utterly stupid and gullible.
Considering it matches the opinions of 9 different employees on that employment survey site posted early there is not much question.
oh the troll ccp alt guy, shouldn't have even bothered to reply.
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: leth ghost
Originally by: Erichan
Edited by: Erichan on 23/06/2011 19:31:41
Does anyone know why Failheap is still down? EDIT : spelling
http://i.imgur.com/5xJhp.png
this was posted on there, then it went down ????????????
mmmmmm hmmmmmm
remember the timing when that last happened..........
I wonder if they took it down themselves to reduce liability.
Forums are somewhat protected from their users posts in US right? Was it US that made them liable?
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Constantinus Maximus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dograzor
Confirming that they are deleting posts without notifying.
On another note, this thread is reaching 100.000 views in less then 24h. Shouldn't this tell CCP something?
That the need to put their head deeper in the sand?
or
That they need to basically sack everyone and restructure this week?
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gurgeh Murat
This is NOT a whine post. Its a HOPE post.
Dear "retch" CCP
My three accounts will no longer be playing your game. Im sure the temporary influx of people who have no idea of what EvE was really about will temporarily fill the gap of me, and others like me, but you...YOU...have killed this game.
Youve destroyed the player created/maintained sandbox. How so? More than 24hrs and youve not rebutted the leaked newsletter. False is easy to denounce. Youve done **** ALL. So pay to win is a "good news feature" on its way sometime soon. In game items out of thin air.
Youve tried to gouge the people who fixed the holes in your otherwise unplayable game. to quote Professor Farnsworth "good news everyone, were ****ing you over" People paying out of their pocket to make YOUR game better.
Youve lied to us. Trust is like a mirror. You can fix it, but you always see the cracks. Oh wait, youve not even tried to fix it.
You recognize this is a niche game. That is, not full of ******ed ****ups with no sense who can put some thought into a game. Thats not a bad niche. Yet you think we will not realize when you serve cow **** as fillet steak?
You release a contentless "expansion" that provides NOTHING but a place to show off ridiculously overpriced vanity items. Ok, a few bug fixes, and I applaud that. But the basic message. MOAR MONEY!!
You move the game to micro transactions without considering that microtransactions in a PAY TO PLAY game means were being charged twice. Once just to log on, and again to have any hope of being competitive.
"oh but weve never said we're gonna move the game to microtransactions". Oryly? When one of your senior devs is massively in favour of it , I take that as a its gonna happen.
EvE has moved into its end days. Your ****ing off all the people who read the forums e.g the folk who give a damn about your game. The majority of "noobs" dont read the forums. They dont stick around either. The people who have given you money over the past 8 years ARE the people who read the forums. And they have a voice.
And an option.
Lots of them really. I have many billions in assets. It doesent mean **** if im not enjoying what YOU are doing to the game.
I can happily flit from World of Tanks to Champions online. FREE TO PLAY GAMES. If I like them, I can pay money to get better gear. Fine, outlined from the outset, and i know ill face people who have traded beer tokens (i.e. rl money) for an in game advantage.
But this...THIS.........
Yes brethren, I am more than mildly irate.
But there can be hope. CCP, stop trying to milk a golden goose. Were not that demanding. fix the many bugs, keep a STABLE player base, enjoy the revenue and use it for whatever. Dont try to nickel and dime us. Dont try to milk us. Remember the people posting on here are the REAL (no disrespect) players of eve. You trade us in for transigent income at your peril. I paid for a friend to come back to eve a month ago. Because I had faith. Your destroying it.
Bear in mind. IM not talking about changing my mortgage provider, or moving job.
"meh, EvE has become ****, ill play something else."
Its not a big deal really. Or is it....Well I guess it is if you need my subs to keep your reconfigured herring factory running.
GG CCP, gg....
Yours
Gurgeh Murat
Closed System
Dr Fynemann
Bold the bit CCP will hear. "Oh cool he agrees, F2P ftw"
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Reed Tiburon
Edited by: Reed Tiburon on 23/06/2011 19:59:11
Originally by: glepp
Unsubbed 2/3 accounts. Last one will get unsubbed soon.
They run out in october, and unless CCP changes out bigtime, I'm not investing any more time, money or effort into a company i have lost faith in.
Goodbye CCP, it was fun while you still seemed to care.
See this, CCP? You don't know him, but this is glepp. He is one of the many players who make up the vital social fabric between CCP and game. He is a regular poster on the E-UNI forums, helping the newest of the newbies get their heads around this complex and often unintuitive game. He, in short, is good people.
He doesn't give a **** about you anymore.
If I worked at CCP, I'd be worried about stuff like this.
They don't get that. He's 1% in an SQL query done 5mins before a meeting.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 23/06/2011 20:11:27
Originally by: Kali Doom
So, who is Bartholomeus Crane???
Guy with Russian mafia looking for his door?
edit: What are they called even? Still fly under KGB flags and stuff?
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Soden Rah
blah blah blah
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I will quit if you ever do this.
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blah blah blah
If they heard anything. That is it. That you aren't quiting.
Just unsubscribe before it recurs and you're left on the ship alone.
Good post otherwise.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kali Doom
Originally by: Kali Doom
So, who is Bartholomeus Crane???
So does this guy have any connections with CCP in his past??
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm
Same opinions as others and knows more about stuff I've seen from the outside only in small details here or there.
It's reality. Regardless who he is the whole thing is truth.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:45:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Ebisu Kami
Frankly, I was shocked, that they even had the idea of bringing that repaint into the game with a ship readily delivered, after the outrage about MT a while back and their promise to "non non-vanity for MT". It looked so utterly contradictory to the promises and statements they made... Guess we can take it for granted now, that all the nice words from the past aren't worth a dime, because they didn't do this by accident or :nothtoughfarenough:, but because they didn't care at all.
Once again the real CCP shows up in this detail. If you read their comments to CSM you quickly see they are so isolated they don't even understand there "might" be "some" issue.
Then basically say "oh cool so you agree, it's working as intended, oh not a bug, I mean we'll just trial it then see, gotta run!".
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Silicon Sailor
2 THOUSAND posts? Good Lord... what's the record?
No the record was before they deleted all the ones they don't want to go to eve-search.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 05:43:00 -
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Maybe we should just ring the investors and say "Hey... CCP management just lost all your money" :-)
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Isis Soryu
Lol. Don't think this thread should fall off the front page just yet.
I just woke up and this is the most fun eve has been in 3 years. :-)
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 06:38:00 -
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Youtube comments on DUST videos look too much like past bad information.
We may have to fix that and update people.
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aesynil
They're not stupid. They're not going to alienate their player-base or else they just lose money anyways.
Too late.
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 08:18:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Horace Nancyball
Seriously, I was like you a year or so ago. I honestly believed that rmt would kill the game I was playing.
Do you think CCP management being a complete bunch asshats might kill it instead?
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 08:28:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 08:28:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqZcEwHBAk8
Maybe this will help CCP.
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 08:55:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Lamparski
So its real, Ive been reading the forums for a couple hours now and its really sad that Eve is at a great cross roads that could see a lot of veterans leave.
Keep reading. Not cross-roads. A culdesac, a dead-end.
No "could". "has".
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Looks like were done here boys...pack it up. Those leaving..now's the time. See you on the other side with a lightsaber in my hand .
Not until CCP delete the threads and round 2 starts.
Some of us still have months of subscription time left. :-)
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Truth.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 11:56:13
Originally by: Akira Samposeppa
Maybe it would be the best if we all dont log in after dt as a sign of protest until ccp explains the leaked memo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_failure
Login means nothing now.
edit: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=failure%20cascade probably better cite.
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 13:13:07
Originally by: Tla Atij
Holy ****, I go away for a while and come back to find a 120 pages long 'apology' thread.
Anyone care to summarize it? Miilla? Anyone?
The video in the sig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tla Atij
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 13:13:07
Originally by: Tla Atij
Holy ****, I go away for a while and come back to find a 120 pages long 'apology' thread.
Anyone care to summarize it? Miilla? Anyone?
The video in the sig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
Saw that yesterday, made me chuckle.
It's a very accurate depiction of the detail and subtlety of the situation.
Obviously someone who has been around the CSM/employees and stuff for a good while.
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
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